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Glad you came out of that okay. That was a serious tumble.

Add 5 for the Honda's low range and you have the winner.
Sure is convenient how they left that category out of the scoring.

I was looking back through some threads a few weeks ago about the Talon.

2013. Only took Honda 5 years.

My bookmark for this site opens on the New Posts page (Activity Stream) where It shows me not logged in but when I right click on a thread and open it I am logged in there... ?

104 hp. Low and high range. The DCT's in the Pioneers are doing lots better since they supposedly got the bugs worked out. But a belt is quick and easy and lots cheaper than a DCT to fix for sure....

CPSC Recall all models.

https://cpsc.gov/Recalls/2019/American-Honda-Recalls-Recreational-Off-Highway-Vehicles-Due-to-Fire-and-Burn-Hazards-Recall-Alert

Lookin good. :You_Rock_Emoticon:

High oil consumption because of faulty machining of the cylinders seems to be somewhat of a problem too.
Yamaha now owns controlling interest in that Subaru manufacturing company since last quarter...

That Havoc does have some good points, long travel with nice shocks and that storage behind the seat being the biggies. But it is wider than I want. Then there is the problem, to me anyway, of it...

Yes that thing has lots of nice features but it is more sport and not as much trail and utility like I need. From what I read it is more like a race car as far as noise and heat in the cab. I like...

People will continue to buy them no matter what.. ? Not exactly.
They will buy them only until they can get a better deal. Better being better to each individual buyer.
Polaris only puts the...

Okay, lol.
So you guys still can't figure out why Polaris sells so good?
Neither can Yamaha.
The Polaris vehicles in the group I ride with have been very good over all.
When it comes to Polaris...

But for the way they are treated the major brands are pretty reliable overall. IMHO

Lol. A friend of mine has a couple of Rhino's and I have seen the problems he has had and that alone is enough for me to stay away from Yamaha.
See, that goes both ways. But honestly, things...

I went by the dealer yesterday. My cuz and I drove a 1000 Ranger with the nice heavy doors with the roll up windows. The door knob came off in my hand when I tried to roll it back up.... I don't...

Well, they keep buying them because most people like them the best all around in spite of the problems they have with them. It is kind of a love/hate relationship.
The 570 RZR is not representative...

But.

Just buy a Wolverine and live with the 9" travel is my advice.
But the Stampede, the Havoc's little brother which is only 58 inches wide has 9.5 front and 10.5 rear travel.


My local...

13 inches of travel?
That is about 4 more than 9 isn't it?
Adjustable King shocks too?
Looks to me like it is doing a fine job.

Lol.

In my old rock crawling days we called those 'lunch box lockers' because of the small size and they came in a little box that looked like a sandwich box at McDonalds etc.
They work good generally...

The 2019 Viking is already CARB certified with the 686 motor on 5/02/18 and again on 6/25/18.

Info from Hondaprokevin.

http://www.hondaprokevin.com/2019-honda-talon-1000-sport-utv-side-by-side-sxs-atv-leaked

Some of the Honda guys doubt it but that forum is where the pictures originated on the net, and they now have a new....Honda Talon section.

I don't know either but I bet they are real.
The rumors have been getting more insistent that the release will be soon.
As long as it has been from concept to rumored production is ridiculous.

Now Honda Talon pictures out there.:49:

My closest dealer, Abernathy's, has the X4 SE models discounted 19% off and '17 Vikings at 16% off and I expect the X2's to be similar so that puts some really good deals out there. Bargains really....